The Art of Holding Back: An Interview with Martin Gruber
The closer you get to the essence of a place, the less need there is for grand gestures. Martin Gruber talks about the power of the human touch, the beauty of reduction, artistic experimentation and an architecture that grows out of a close connection with nature.
Hello Martin โ lovely to see you again! What are you working on at the moment?
Mono is currยญently taking shape in the Ahrntal valley. When you stand in front of the site, there is initially very little to see: two walls lie in the mountain meadow, with a space opening up between them. The house is set into the slope, its two glazed sides looking up and down the valley. I like this simple gesture. It doesnโt try to compete with the landยญscape. The longer you stand there, the less certain you become where the archiยญtecture begins and the place ends.
Perhaps this approach also comes from the old retaining walls you find everยญyยญwhere around here. They were built because they were necessary. Nobody thought of them as archiยญtecture at the time. Over the decades, they have become part of the landยญscape. Their beauty comes from how natural and self-evident they seem. It is preยญcisely this sense of natuยญralness that I look for in new houses too.
At the beginning of Sepยญtember, we also opened Living Lands in Biberwier. A former campsite was disยญmantled and transยญformed into an unduยญlating garden, flanked by an โinhaยญbiยญtable garden wallโ. Its form is derived from the Loisach river, which flows past the site. The result is an organic archiยญtecture that nevertยญheless remains very calm and clear.
The idea behind this reversal of the building was very simple: the longing for a shelยญtered interior. An interior like a garden, almost like a little paradise.
What shapes your funยญdaยญmental archiยญtecยญtural approach? How do you address a project?
Let me start the other way round. In the end, it has to be good. HOLIDAYARCHITECTURE selects archiยญtecture of genuine quality. Taken as a whole, this approach creates trust and makes a valuable conยญtriยญbution to archiยญtecture, inspiring people and drawing them in.
That is the aspiยญration I bring to every project. First, I take the time to look closely, and then I try to develop an affection for the place, the existing fabric and the people involved. Appยญlying this attitude makes it easier to find the starting point for a project โ and that process is often rooted in an artistic approach.
For me, art is the attentive, the metiยญculous element, someยญthing that goes beyond the ordinary and the necessary โฆ often someยญthing rather difยญficult to find โ simply art. And usually it involves an ideal. Iโm looking for a beauty that is beyond dispute, that natural beauty that can be intuiยญtively recoยญgยญnised and understood by as many people as posยญsible. A beauty without a moraยญlising edge.
When Iโm unsure about a design decision, I try to think of archiยญtecture more as a film than as a plan. Life, after all, conยญsists inherยญently of dynamic states. Needs change. The surยญrounยญdings change with the seasons. I like trying to identify patยญterns in all of this and taking a stance. I also like tranยญsiยญtions and interยญmeยญdiate states โ perhaps thatโs preยญcisely why I like building sites.
When a project really moves me, it feels like a film of a life. I sudยญdenly become very serious, and I become more aware of everยญyยญthing. I ask myself whether I have put enough feeling and love into it. Not just love of detail โ that too โ but an overall sense of attenยญtiยญveness, responยญsiยญbility and goodwill.
The role of the human element as a central force is very important to me. It starts with the client, whom I someยญtimes agree with too readily. But I also often give in because I trust that the concept is still strong enough. And so I someยญtimes give the craftยญspeople a bit more freedom, once they underยญstand the concept. That creates someยญthing like passion and, from there, a kind of friยญendship. Thatโs roughly the atmoยญsphere on my building sites.
Inciยญdenยญtally, as a young architect I always regarded this wilยญlingness to give in as a weakness; now I see it more as someยญthing that is simply part of who I am. Ultiยญmยญately, itโs about transยญforming that mutual trust into beauty. Because archiยญtecture is very static and designed for the very long term, everยญyยญthing has to be caliยญbrated with enormous foreยญsight โ to the best of oneโs knowยญledge and belief.
Do you work mainly on your own, or do you have a team?
The design for a project grows from within, so initially thatโs me, one hundred per cent. I used to have six employees. Over time, they all set up on their own. I now work with some of them on a freeยญlance basis, as well as with other young archiยญtects. Everyone has their parยญtiยญcular strengths: getting a plan approved locally, for example, or coorยญdiยญnating with engiยญneers on fire safety and cadastral matters. An entire orchestra always comes togยญether, and I see being able to design as the greatest priยญvilege. But of course, taken as a whole, itโs cerยญtainly not a one-man show.
On your website, you yourself write: โBuilding also means knowing when to hold backโ. Would it be fair to say that โ also given your limited manยญpower โ you are parยญtiยญcuยญlarly selยญective about which proยญjects you actually take on?
I like to look at every building project. But before any planning or building begins, each project is first and foremost a fresh start โ with a new place, a new client and a new brief. The first thing this requires is a creative anaยญlysis of what is already there. Nothing needs to be drawn at this stage; I simply want to pause. It is essential to give yourself enough time during this phase to ask the right quesยญtions before looking for answers. After all, you have to want to find someยญthing before you can start looking for it.
Anaยญlysis is folยญlowed by synยญthesis: usually five or six design ideas that I weigh up against one another โ and that is someยญthing I actually do on my own. Afterยญwards, I like to sit down with an older local resident and the craftยญspeople. And, in my mind, Proยญfessor Volker Giencke or Oscar Nieยญmeyer are always sitting on my shoulder too, testing my ideas for legiยญbility, simยญplicity and subยญjective taste. This is the phase in which the idea has to pass the test of reality before the next steps can follow.
You said that you never like your archiยญtecture to compete with nature. How exactly do you achieve that? Does it already happen during this conยญtemยญplative phase?
Yes. The spirit of the place and nature as both inspiยญration and the mother of all things are essential aspects. There is also a spiยญritual dimension to nature. With Living Lands, there was a moment when I found myself thinking of Hesseโs Sidยญdhartha and of how he looks into the stream, simply observing the water. I firmly believe that the closer a project is to nature, the more coherent it is โ because people often like to argue about archiยญtecture and beauty, but they donโt argue about nature.
Everยญyยญthing in nature is beauยญtiful โ even the desert is beauยญtiful. If you really engage with it, at some point you realise that there is nothing in nature that feels wrong. And you start to notice the details. We archiยญtects should practise this way of seeing things too. My father might be standing next to me, for example, and say: โLook, the swallows donโt have any puddles left to provide the mud they need to build their nests.โ Meanยญwhile, some archiยญtecยญtural project for the design of a public square has just won an award โ everยญyยญthing is perfect, except there arenโt any puddles left. That wakes me up and brings me back down to earth.
Staying with nature: if you browse through the comments about Freiform, your own holiday home, you come across descripยญtions such as โNature Obserยญvatoryโ or โnot designed as a house, but as an organic sculptureโ. Was that your intention when you designed it?
Iโm happy to admit that someยญtimes the hand moves faster than the mind and I couldnโt posยญsibly have thought all of it through in advance. Freiform involved a lot of expeยญriยญments that hapยญpened to work. The basic idea was to place furยญniture in a meadow and wrap a loop around it to keep resiยญdents warm. And rather than posiยญtioning the whole thing straight across the slope, I set it at a slight angle so that you can look both uphill and downhill. Freiform reflects a great deal of who I am as a person.
It was also exciting because it was the first project where I was both client and architect. Natuยญrally, that led to some enormous arguยญments with myself. But at a certain point, there was the freedom and energy for that sweeping gesture โ and it still makes me breathe deeply today. Itโs wonยญderful to see the impact archiยญtecture can have.
Weโve had the opporยญtunity to expeยญrience Freiform ourยญselves. The preยญsence of nature is all-encomยญpassing, while the archiยญtecture has a soothing sense of natuยญralness.
Thank you for the comยญpliment! This is reflected in many of the comments in the guestbook, and they also make it clear that the archiยญtecture quite obviously works without an insยญtruction manual. Many guests stay in bed for a very long time because they simply canโt tear themยญselves away from the ever-changing views!
Alongside its strong tactile quality, Freiform โ like many of your other proยญjects โ is striking for its many small design details. Do you design these yourself?
For me, a concept requires you to carry the building through from beginning to end. Not with the perยญfection of industry or product design, but with a more archaic tacยญtility. My wife and I, for example, cut the recesses for the lights ourยญselves and then simply wedged the fitยญtings into place. When you enjoy getting involved in the making yourself, you can feel the idea merging with the act of doing. In my view, that is the most honest form of comยญmuยญniยญcation. More speยญciยญfiยญcally, we didnโt want to hang designer lamps there, because they could hang anyยญwhere. For us, it was about light and about not obsยญtructing the view.
In any case, I think we have far too much respect for white walls or perfect floors. When I saw Niemeyerโs felt-tip sketches on white walls โ someยญthing norยญmally only small children are allowed to do โ I found it impressive. The human being is eleยญvated and the wall becomes less important. Thatโs how it should be.
Just as with my wooden sculpยญtures, some of which are charred, I evenยญtually plucked up the courage to work on the walls too, using, for example, soot-covered gloves. Of course, I asked myself beforehand: am I really allowed to do this? And what happens if it goes wrong? But evenยญtually I thought: the house belongs to me, not the other way round. Once youโve taken that risk and then see and feel what happens, it is someยญthing entirely difยญferent from hanging a picture on a white wall. It affects you in a comยญpletely difยญferent way.
So this is the applied attitude you menยญtioned earlier, which you practise in both archiยญtecture and art?
Yes. These tests of courage and exerยญcises in the anaยญlogue realm โ that is, an appยญreยญciation of the oriยญginal with all the eleยญments of chance, and even the posยญsiยญbility of failure โ require you to expeยญriment and to accept that you can never fully control the process.
With houses, I donโt like making mistakes; there is too much responยญsiยญbility involved. With sculpยญtures, on the other hand, Iโm free. While my father is very pragยญmatic and priยญmarily sees the caloยญrific value of a log of wood, I try to coax a spirit out of the wood. Not everยญyยญthing has to be perfect โ quite the opposite. Figuยญration already feels restยญrictive to me. You have to give the viewers the freedom to see and disยญcover someยญthing for themยญselves. Despite all the practice Iโve had by now, it remains a very indiยญvidual process. And a very exciting one!
This brings us back to the art of holding back, doesnโt it?
Exactly. The essential question you have to answer every single time is: how far do I go, and when do I say, โItโs finished nowโ? You can โoverยญdesignโ a piece, after all. So you must be in touch with yourself and trust your instincts. Reason alone canโt do it. Parยญtiยญcuยญlarly now, in an age of AI and robotics domiยญnated by algoยญrithms, this genuine act of creating with a warm heart is espeยญcially important to me as a counยญterยญbaยญlance.
Since much of your work is set in the mounยญtains, I presume that reduction plays a parยญtiยญcuยญlarly vital role there.
A building always transยญforms a place too; there is an interplay between the two. So in senยญsitive landยญscapes such as the Alps, it isnโt simply about the spirit of the place itself. It is also very much about behaving approยญpriately, exerยญcising resยญtraint and paying parยญtiยญcular attention to the context. Because every interยญvention also gives rise to a spirit of the building itself.
Building is always a public matter and theยญrยญefore a visible responยญsiยญbility. From a phyยญsical point of view, there is a certain indifยญfeยญrence down on the plain, whereas the mounยญtains are defined by their horizons and their relaยญtiยญonship with gravity and theยญrยญefore require a difยญferent approach.
With Anders, you made a very clear statement when you decided to downsize what had been a hotel with a large number of beds. In other proยญjects too, you have not only held back in your own interยญvenยญtions but actively proยญposed reduction and scaling back.
Apart from the fact that the banks were somewhat anxious about the future at the time and COVID also played a part, in the case of the anders suites, I sugยญgested to the owner that he should return to the very essence of hosยญpiยญtality.
When tourism first began to take off in our area 40 or 50 years ago, people simply welยญcomed visitors into their homes, without any conยญcepts or marยญketing. There was simply a certain goodwill towards guests โ or โstrangersโ, as they were still called back then. You gave them a bed and let them sit at the table with you. That was someยญthing a family could manage in those days without making huge investยญments, taking on debt or needing employees. It was all much smaller and more modest than it is today.
This downยญsizing at anders meant that there was once again more time for the guests. Sudยญdenly, even the chanยญterยญelles they pick themยญselves are enough for everyone again. And so, in the evening, the host sits with the guests, perhaps over a glass of wine, and once again has time to spare. Thatโs a treยญmendous quality for everyone involved.
With your proยญjects such as Mono or Nidum, one gets the impression that you have taken your senยญsitive approach to place and landยญscape to yet another level. You yourself have described this โ very aptly, we think โ as โdisยญapยญpearing through designโ.
Conยญceptual design is about essence. With Mono, we designed using archiยญtecยญtural eleยญments that were already present on the site, thereby redisยญcoยญvering the everyday in the process.
Instead of autoยญmaยญtiยญcally directing the view downhill, we opened up views both up and down the valley. This allowed the project to disยญappear from view from the road while still opening the house to nature to the south and north.
Nidum, on the other hand, is a private house. The owner actually wanted a sort of copy of Freiform, which of course I didnโt do (chuckles). I also had to tell him that I wouldnโt have time for another six months. At that point, I assumed that would be the end of it. But Marco called again exactly six months later. And then I began exploring the posยญsiยญbiยญlities offered by local craftยญsmanship.
The result is a preยญfaยญbriยญcated timber structure that was assembled in a workshop in South Tyrol and then, so to speak, โplantedโ on the site. The angled wall is a refeยญrence to anders, altยญhough here it wasnโt reaยญlised in a curved form.
As you can see, I donโt even like right angles in the verยญtical. I find this incliยญnation more pleasant. A backrest is slightly inclined too, after all.
What other prinยญciples are parยญtiยญcuยญlarly important to you?
In my view, we should โ or perhaps better, we could โ be content with much less and appยญreยญciate and enjoy simple things more. These days, design is often addicted to the wow effect, and in politics it is the extremes that prevail.
When I look at my parents, for example, at the simple life they led and how beneยญvolent and positive they always were towards everยญyยญthing around them, I become conยญscious of this beauยญtiful, conยญtented middle ground. Humanity, diliยญgence and the idea that it is enough to appยญreยญciate simple, everyday things for their very ordiยญnaยญriness. Metaยญphoยญriยญcally speaking, not everยญyยญthing needs to have rough edges.
The element of surยญprise that we create by quesยญtioning the everyday is entirely sufยญfiยญcient. All it takes is passion and a delight in the little things. I believe in the soft side of life.
You mean that things find their own form, much like the organic shapes in your archiยญtecture โ emerging from the flow and the process because you are able to embrace what the context offers you and are preยญpared to fit in?
That puts it perยญfectly โ that could almost be a quote from me!
Iโm conยญvinced that we arrive at much better soluยญtions when we listen to one another. Of course, ours is a techยญnical proยญfession โฆ but for me, feeling, the human element, mutual appยญreยญciation and passion are the decisive factors. Trust as an applied attitude, so to speak.
Martin, thank you very much for talking to us!
Martin Gruber is a freeยญlance architect from Brixen, South Tyrol. He lives and works with his family on a farm in Verยญdings (Freiform), where he also creates wooden sculpยญtures.
During his career as a sportsman (run-off-track luge vice-world champion in 1999/2000), Martin Gruber studied archiยญtecture in Vienna, Innsยญbruck, New York and Venice. In 2001, he founded his studio and has been working as a freeยญlance architect both at home and abroad ever since.
Driven by the conยญviction that every era, every place and every person posยญsยญesses its own inherent beauty, Martin Gruber works with miniยญmalist forms and seeks to reveal this beauty through essential design. In doing so, he leaves sufยญfiยญcient scope for the viewerโs interยญpreยญtation, enabling a highly perยญsonal perยญception of his proยญjects and works, so that a strong sense of trust in subยญjecยญtively beauยญtiful archiยญtecture and art can be fosยญtered.
Interview: The interview was conยญducted by Britta Krรคmer and Ulrich Stefan Knoll.
Image credits: Martin Gruber ยฉ Kathie McKยญnoulty (Titelbild); Mono ยฉ Martin Gruber (1โ3, 35/36); Living Lands ยฉ Martin Gruber (4/5); Naturยญpanยญoramen und โstimยญmungen ยฉ Martin Gruber ยฉ Tobias Kaser (6โ9, 18, 23โ25, 41); Freiform ยฉ Martin Gruber ยฉ Tobias Kaser (10โ16, 26); Skulpยญturen ยฉ Elisa Capยญpellari ยฉ Kathie McKยญnoulty (17, 19โ22); Anders Suites ยฉ Tobias Kaser ยฉ Martin Gruber (27โ34); Nidum ยฉ Martin Gruber (37โ40)
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