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Tourist infra­structure as a location factor

Reiner Nagel, Chairman of the Board of the Federal Foundation of Baukultur, in interview about golden energy, the cultural relevance of tourism architecture and his personal vacation preferences.

by Ulrich Knoll in February 2024

 Tou­ris­tische Infra­struktur als Stand­ort­faktor in  /

URLAUBSARCHITEKTUR (UA): Mr Nagel, what are the most impressive pro­jects at the interface between archi­tecture and tourism that you per­so­nally have come across in recent years?

Archi­tecture and Bau­kultur [approx. trans­lation: Building Culture/Culture of Building] have his­to­ri­cally been the key drivers of tourism. Even today, there is no travel bro­chure without photos of the archi­tec­tural high­lights at the desti­nation. The way in which city tourism has uti­lised this prin­ciple in recent decades has cer­tainly been impressive. Ico­no­graphic new buil­dings have emerged as symbols of eco­nomic struc­tural change, but also as tourist desti­na­tions. From the Gug­genheim Museum in Bilbao to the Elb­phil­har­monie concert hall in Hamburg. Per­so­nally, I am most impressed by the fact that the high quality archi­tec­tural infra­structure has now also become a hallmark and often a decisive location factor in small towns and rural areas.

UA: Do buil­dings for tourism pur­poses play a signi­ficant role for the Federal Foun­dation of Bau­kultur?

Yes, tourist infra­structure is very important, espe­cially from the per­spective of Bau­kultur . Hotels, inns, cycling hostels and “spa archi­tecture” create social places and oppor­tu­nities to connect with the world. For guests and resi­dents alike. After all, being a guest is a cul­tural skill that is reflected in high-quality archi­tec­tural spaces. Back in 2020, the Federal Institute for Urban Deve­lo­pment and Spatial Planning BBSR pre­sented the study “Bau­kultur und Tou­rismus” (German version only) and demons­trated the importance of regional Bau­kultur in terms of location policy. For the Federal Foun­dation, the benefits of Bau­kultur are par­ti­cu­larly signi­ficant if it is pos­sible to pre­serve, reuse or convert buil­dings that cha­rac­terise the local area.

UA: Holidays offer the oppor­tunity to expe­rience and live in Bau­kultur for yourself. How can we make even better use of this oppor­tunity to convey the concept of Bau­kultur?

A suc­cessful holiday also has some­thing to do with a change of scenery. Spending the night or living in a very special place may even leave a more lasting impression than the holiday weather or the food. In Switz­erland, you can try living in heritage listed buil­dings to get a feel for an old house yourself. (Edi­tor’s note: You can read the interview with Christine Matthey, Managing Director of the Ferien im Bau­denkmal Foun­dation [Holidays in Heritage Listed Buil­dings] here). Of course, this is also about con­veying the story behind the building. According to Goethe, we only see what we know. But con­versely, we also need con­vincing visual objects and a positive expe­rience of archi­tecture with all our senses.

UA: In your opinion, what should our partners pay par­ti­cular attention to in order to realise future pro­jects appro­priately or to further develop existing pro­jects in a sus­tainable way?

I believe that future pro­jects should be based even more than before on remo­delling rather than on new con­s­truction or repla­cement con­s­truction. There is huge potential in this. Not only in terms of climate- and envi­ron­men­tally- fri­endly con­s­truction, but also in terms of rea­lising existing atmo­spheric potential. We are talking about the golden energy inherent in existing buil­dings. Those who reco­gnise this and lead it into the future create a high social benefit. Financial fea­si­bility is usually a given with good planning that works with and not against the building. And many project par­ti­ci­pants can confirm from expe­rience that high-quality mate­rials, good work­manship and great fle­xi­bility of use pay off over its life cycle.

UA: Wouldn’t it actually be time to award a nati­onwide prize for exem­plary archi­tecture in tourism?

Good idea. Award pro­ce­dures are like the finishing touch to everyday dishes. In con­s­truction, the refe­rences for Bau­kultur become visible here. This has worked very well for the Bavarian artouro Tou­ris­mAr­chi­tec­ture­Prize since 2011. The orga­nisers here are the Bavarian Chamber of Archi­tects and the the Ministry of Food, Agri­culture, Forestry and Tourism. A similar con­stel­lation would cer­tainly also make sense at the national level, as the German Tou­ris­mAr­chi­tecture Award.

UA: What is important to you per­so­nally on holiday? And what are the “no gos” for you?

On holiday, I look for harmony between an intact cul­tural land­scape, a lively, not too tou­risty holiday desti­nation and beau­tiful accom­mo­dation. It’s actually banal, but it’s not a given. A “no go” for me would be if this triad is only arti­fi­cially staged in a holiday resort. I find such a promise of luxury, even at a high price, unin­te­resting because it lacks authen­ticity and soul.


Since 2007, the Federal Foun­dation of Bau­kultur, based in Potsdam, has been an inde­pendent orga­ni­sation pro­moting Bau­kultur. To this end, it anchors the topic of Bau­kultur in society at the national level and com­mu­ni­cates its importance to the general public. It the­r­efore acts as an advocate for high-quality con­s­truction planning and rea­li­sation. It also acts as a platform that pro­motes public dia­logue on Bau­kultur through events, publi­ca­tions and col­la­bo­ra­tions, as well as expanding and con­so­li­dating existing net­works.

Reiner Nagel, architect and urban planner BDA + DASL, has been Chairman of the Board of the Federal Foun­dation of Bau­kultur since 2013. Pre­viously, he was head of department in the Berlin Senate Department for Urban Deve­lo­pment for the areas of urban deve­lo­pment, urban and open space planning and nature con­ser­vation (since 2005). Reiner Nagel has worked for the City of Hamburg in various func­tions at a dis­trict and senate level since 1986, most recently as a member of the management board of HafenCity Hamburg GmbH from 1998. He is a lec­turer in Urban Design at the Tech­nical Uni­versity of Berlin, a member of the German Academy for Urban and Regional Planning and an asso­ciate member of the Asso­ciation of German Archi­tects.

Interview: Ulrich Stefan Knoll, January 2024
Photo: © Lidia Tirri

2 Comments

Sehr erfreulich, dass in diesem Interview auch das in unserer Welt ver­knappter Resoursen wichtige Thema “Erhalten, nicht Neu Bauen” ange­sprochen wird, das Erhalten von Material UND Seele. Ich möchte auch noch auf die tou­ris­ti­schen Erfolgs­pro­jekte Hom­broich in Deutschland, Nao­shima und Tejima in Japan und Marfa, Texas, alle begonnen in den 1980 — er Jahren!, auf­merksam mach en. Dort ist es gelungen, abge­legene Orte (Tejima war Industrie-ver­seucht, Marfa eine her­un­ter­ge­kommene Mili­tär­anlage) mit groß­ar­tigen Kunst­werken und eben­solchen Archi­tekten und Land­schafts­ar­chi­tekten zu tou­ris­ti­schen Pil­ger­stätten umzu­formen. Diese tou­ris­ti­schen Welt­erfolge mögen gleich uns im Kranich Hotel auch anderen an schwie­rigen Stand­orten Mut machen. Wir sind das Gegen­bei­spiel zu “Lage, Lage, Lage”, die Orte der beson­deren Art.

Dr. Bettina Klein sagt:

Dem Interview können wir als Betreiber eines sehr denk­mal­ge­recht restau­rierten muse­ums­ar­tigen Feri­en­hauses nur zustimmen: Das Erleben von Bau­kultur ist nicht nur Moti­vation für Tourist/innen und Rei­sende, sondern kann dar­über­hinaus – im Qualitäts‑, Aus­lands- und Bin­nen­tou­rismus – ent­scheidend dazu bei­tragen, eine breitere Ver­mittlung, ein tie­feres Ver­ständnis sowie eine gene­relle Wert­schätzung gegenüber unserer gebauten Umwelt, der Regional‑, Zeit- und Kul­tur­ge­schichte zu fördern. Unser Projekt TAUTES HEIM in der von Bruno Taut ent­wor­fenen Huf­ei­sen­siedlung etwa füllt tat­sächlich eine ekla­tante Lücke in der Ber­liner Welterbe-Ver­mittlung und Muse­ums­land­schaft. Gäbe es – wie vor­ge­schlagen – einen solchen “German-Archi­tec­tural-Heritage-Tourism-Award”- Wett­bewerb würden wir uns sofort bewerben ;)

Ben Buschfeld + Katrin Lesser sagt:

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